Arthur Keleti: “Humans didn’t create AI because they don’t want to do anything” – Future Talks, Trade magazin’s Business Podcast continues
Szilvia Krizsó has interviewed cyber-secret futurist Arthur Keleti. This article features excerpts from Trade magazin’s Future Talks podcast series. You can watch the full interview at futuretalks.hu.
This article is available for reading in Trade magazin 2025/11.
– This isn’t our first conversation, but what you said here about the rise of AI three years ago is now history.
– From a certain point of view, yes, because changes are happening in a matter of weeks or even days. At the same time, we are still talking about the same thing: we can follow the unprecedented development of AI language models, generative AI and multimodal models.

Arthur Keleti
cyber-secret futurist
– A few years ago no one would have thought that AI would pose the greatest threat to creative professions: it now writes text, edits videos, takes photos and produces sketches.
– Throughout history we have always had assistants. When it comes to the greatest works of art, there is always debate about whether they were created by the master himself or by one of his assistants, and to what extent each of them contributed to the work.
– Will our job be like that of the cats at the end of animated film Cat City, when they are standing in the field, sniffing the flowers and watching the butterflies?
– Humans didn’t create AI because they don’t want to do anything, but precisely because they want to do more. Researchers are very curious about what is possible by using AI. For instance the system developed by Anthropic, called Claude, is excellent at talking about physics – but also about everyday topics.
– If after a while AI will be able to make decisions without human intervention, what will those people do who have been creating strategies and overseeing their implementation?
– It is already capable of making countless such decisions, so this isn’t the future but the present. The autonomous agentic systems currently being developed by all the big companies are moving towards teaching AI the context of a decision, by exposing it to a large number of decision-making situations.

„It’s already evident that due to the pace of progress many security protocols, ethical considerations, and moral reflections are pushed into the background”
– What do you think we need to learn now? For example there has been an incredible oversubscription to psychology courses lately.
– It is no coincidence. Human sciences have suddenly become very important. I think it is worth learning everything right now. However, anything that can be easily automated or is repetitive can be done by a robot or a machine, so people need to be able to do it at a higher level than before.
– If someone wants to prepare for the future, do they need to start building a new life in parallel with their present?
– I think that lots of professions will either disappear or change to such an extent that much fewer people will be needed in a given field, but there will still be a large group of people who will have to implement the ideas behind these automated systems.
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